tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4471993488623327927.post275830744426743954..comments2024-03-13T06:57:54.343+00:00Comments on Obnoxio The Clown: Too late for DING?Obnoxio The Clownhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12012089552153702526noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4471993488623327927.post-88131923395358853772010-03-27T20:28:53.464+00:002010-03-27T20:28:53.464+00:00J_T, I don't know what the fuck you're on,...J_T, I don't know what the fuck you're on, but I'd really love some.<br /><br />Unless, of course, you're just a fucking loony.Obnoxio The Clownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12012089552153702526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4471993488623327927.post-9419105348333820282010-03-27T18:23:13.298+00:002010-03-27T18:23:13.298+00:00I actually think that reading the Conservative pre...I actually think that reading the Conservative press will have given you a somewhat unfair and biased view of Brown.<br /><br />In 1997, debt was 43% of GDP. In 2008, before the credit crunch, it was 37% of GDP. So we entered the credit crunch with substantially lower debt than in 1997, when Labour took over from the Conservatives.<br />In that time there was massive investment in education and the NHS. under the Tories the party you seem to love, we had a shabby education system and a second rate health service.<br />Buildings were falling down in 1997. Now there are lots of shiny new ones with all the latest technology.<br />Exam results are up too. There are more teaching assistants and teachers than ever. Class sizes are down. Teachers are paid more (which means they are probably of better quality).<br /><br />As for the NHS, it has been widely reported that Tony Blair saved the NHS. Investment needed to be brought in as under the Tories waiting times were very long and investment as percentage of GDP was a lot lower than other countries in Europe.<br /><br />Was money wasted? Sure. But that is why reviews are conducted. Can't expect massive investment to go in and straight away the money be put to efficient use. <br />The NHS and education system are a lot more efficient now than when the first massive investments was made.<br /><br />What would the NHS and the education system have been like if the Conservatives had clung to power and continued their underinvestment? I'd dread to think.<br /><br />Another success was on poverty. It doubled under Thatcher from 10% to 22%. She can also be blamed for the rise of the sink estate. All the good social housing was sold off to the private sector. You were left with run down estates where crime rocketed and anti-social behaviour abounded. It was at this time that teenage pregnancy began to rise. <br />With the introduction of child tax credits and pensioner credits poverty has come down a lot. Also poverty is relative (you are in poverty if your income 50% lower than median wage). The median wage has risen as Britain has prospered. <br />Have we been light on scroungers? Again another Tory tabloid myth. Our unemployment benefit is the stingiest in Europe. If you are on benefits then you are not enjoying it - believe me. Unemployment has rarely been an issue during the last 13 years until most recently. Our unemployment rate is lower than most countries even now.<br /><br />As I say, the press (which is mainly Conservative) doesn't exactly give you a fair and non-biased view of things.furkanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15976551385719695812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4471993488623327927.post-21960071938796602492010-03-27T08:53:26.534+00:002010-03-27T08:53:26.534+00:00Well said Obo, an excellent post as per usual.
It...Well said Obo, an excellent post as per usual.<br /><br />Its funny you know but while your views -- our views because I share them too -- might be considered controversial, I believe you've got your finger on the nations pulse much more accurately than ANY of the political parties. Things are so rotten in this country that only a huge shock to the system is going to begin to put things right again. Brown getting re-elected should do it I think?<br /><br />On the subject of the EU, which is often held up as a reason for the Tories faltering support. Isn't it strange that none of the EU supporting big parties (Labour, Conservative or Liberal) ever make a case for the institution these days? For parties that believe we're better off in, none of them are ever heard putting forward an argument. Scared? Dishonest? Embarrassed? Worried that any debate would show their arguments to be empty?John Pickworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02166443099429490782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4471993488623327927.post-27861726794653011722010-03-26T15:46:52.025+00:002010-03-26T15:46:52.025+00:00The useless fucker could easily have achieved the ...The useless fucker could easily have achieved the largest majority ever, by just making one announcement: <br /><br />Conservatives = out of the EU. <br /><br />But has he heck! Useless, bloody useless.<br /><br />I got my voting card today through the post with the date May 6th on it. Is that official then? Seen no announcements on MSM.sixtypoundsaweekcleanernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4471993488623327927.post-78774290489982104532010-03-26T14:24:44.361+00:002010-03-26T14:24:44.361+00:00Good blog, Obo.
You said:
"Perhaps DING'...Good blog, Obo.<br /><br />You said:<br /><br />"Perhaps DING's utter, utter uselessness may eventually have a good outcome"<br /><br />I think it will. I think that when the total Tory vote is added to UKIP's vote, it will show that the Tories would have won. Then, perhaps, the penny might drop.<br /><br />I further think that when the UKIP vote in the marginals is considered, the cost of them to the Tories in terms of seats will be staggering.<br /><br />Lastly, yes, I think Labour will win, but with no real majority, and I think that the new Parliament will be lucky to last 6 months.<br /><br />Egg, broken, omelette...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4471993488623327927.post-47713034911983157242010-03-26T12:25:16.212+00:002010-03-26T12:25:16.212+00:00Sinking Tories Subtle Adverts<a href="http://inotify.blogspot.com/2010/03/sinking-tories-subtle-adverts.html" rel="nofollow">Sinking Tories Subtle Adverts</a>Beware of Geeks bearing GIFshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01593142105719207212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4471993488623327927.post-71711272241122330282010-03-26T10:38:51.453+00:002010-03-26T10:38:51.453+00:00"At its best, New Labour was a recognition th..."At its best, New Labour was a recognition that the values of enterprise and aspiration could be fused with a commitment to social justice and fairness. And the party that best exemplifies that view now is David Cameron’s Conservative Party." - Michael Gove<br /><br />Could it be that even the British public have figured out that "Call Me Dave" isn't offering any sort of alternative? That the winner of this election is Labour, or Labour? I do hope so. <br /><br />I won't be rewarding this so-called "opposition" with a vote. I hate Labour but I really, really hate the "Conservatives".Vladimirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03343205052620782883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4471993488623327927.post-18323596924957831082010-03-26T08:49:17.209+00:002010-03-26T08:49:17.209+00:00Least worst? Fuck off. They are the least worst li...Least worst? Fuck off. They are the least worst likely to get in this side of the second coming, I think is what you meant.Uncle Marvohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00146362608723100601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4471993488623327927.post-10720240927389712662010-03-26T08:43:53.347+00:002010-03-26T08:43:53.347+00:00"people will finally understand the libertari..."people will finally understand the libertarianism will return their dignity and their self-respect"<br /><br />Did you have the British public down as fundamentally quite bright, but they are simply too busy or distracted to notice?<br /><br />Obnoxio dear boy. The British public are really quite dense. If your waiting for them to have some sort of collective epiphany your going to be waiting an extremely fucking long time! <br /><br />Its simply, we need the Tories because they are the least worst.Kingbingonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4471993488623327927.post-16658222257645050532010-03-26T08:36:59.522+00:002010-03-26T08:36:59.522+00:00Obo, another 5 years of this is not an option for ...Obo, another 5 years of this is not an option for me. The only reason I haven't done anything stupid yet is because May isn't far away.Uncle Marvohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00146362608723100601noreply@blogger.com