tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4471993488623327927.post5985287443563164603..comments2024-03-13T06:57:54.343+00:00Comments on Obnoxio The Clown: Making a case for Tax EvasionObnoxio The Clownhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12012089552153702526noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4471993488623327927.post-61299072294403791302010-10-20T09:15:38.352+01:002010-10-20T09:15:38.352+01:00The money Government spends, it raises by taxation...The money Government spends, it raises by taxation.<br /><br />Most Government spending is wasted.<br /><br />It follows that if you avoid or evade tax, the less money is wasted.<br /><br />The corollary is that tax avoidance/evasion (I make no distinction) is ones moral duty and a benefit to society as a whole.Rush-is-Righthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12860467341217977185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4471993488623327927.post-56305858910576774622010-10-15T14:29:03.773+01:002010-10-15T14:29:03.773+01:00Its all a waste of time. It needs two armies. Ours...Its all a waste of time. It needs two armies. Ours must kill theirs. End of.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4471993488623327927.post-34626312956783687582010-10-13T01:20:40.193+01:002010-10-13T01:20:40.193+01:00Nice article, thanks for sharing.Nice article, thanks for sharing.sewa mobilhttp://griyamobilkita.webs.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4471993488623327927.post-47763576970548407252010-09-24T11:48:04.843+01:002010-09-24T11:48:04.843+01:00It's very simple really: The state taxes us t...It's very simple really: The state taxes us the maximum they think they can get away with. They then work out what to spunk the money up the wall, sorry, spend the money on. That is why the rich and influential are taxed less heavily than the poor and powerless, they are able to say "when" sooner and are listened to. It's just up to everyone else to make their presence felt.Bayardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15211150959757982948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4471993488623327927.post-40277907254639878712010-09-24T08:33:42.875+01:002010-09-24T08:33:42.875+01:00Unless the blood supply to the tumour is reduced, ...Unless the blood supply to the tumour is reduced, it will grow and grow.<br /><br />HMRC is the bag-man. The real villain is The State.<br /><br />Tax evasion and avoidance - both are not immoral. Amoral at worst.<br /><br />Illegal? Well, there are many illegal things in this world that should not be, so hardly a good yardstick.<br /><br />Fact is, if taxes were much lower and well spent, most if not all people would never complain about them.<br /><br /><br />Taxes are too high. Taxes are incompetently spent and most of all they are not uniformly collected without fear or favour. To me it is immoral to NOT work towards reversing this appalling state of affairs.Roger Thornhillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03591327286533118901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4471993488623327927.post-82060125264044822592010-09-23T22:46:18.020+01:002010-09-23T22:46:18.020+01:00"Yes and no. The point is that for a given le..."Yes and no. The point is that for a given level of govt. spending, the more people evade or avoid, the bigger the burden on 'the honest'."<br /><br />They're not honest, they're stupid.Obnoxio The Clownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12012089552153702526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4471993488623327927.post-48931623663339041462010-09-23T22:32:38.857+01:002010-09-23T22:32:38.857+01:00Starve the monster.
Vodafone are very good at tha...<i>Starve the monster.</i><br /><br /><a href="http://www.private-eye.co.uk/sections.php?section_link=in_the_back&issue=1270" rel="nofollow">Vodafone</a> are very good at that it seems.nbcnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4471993488623327927.post-61568735673340969822010-09-23T22:08:28.316+01:002010-09-23T22:08:28.316+01:00Couldn't agree more.
If a significant enough ...Couldn't agree more.<br /><br />If a significant enough number of people in Britain decided not to pay any of their taxes, they could starve this parasite to death.<br /><br />With all of the problems the state has created, I'm surprised that a mass tax evasion hasn't already happened.deadaccount.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06385177279765451001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4471993488623327927.post-58654820976280631012010-09-23T22:07:27.670+01:002010-09-23T22:07:27.670+01:00I would love to evade tax but I earn a fucking pit...I would love to evade tax but I earn a fucking pittance to begin with. Best I can do is buy my fags from the local man in a van.Buckohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03169970711606515445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4471993488623327927.post-18456222392245115312010-09-23T20:39:05.370+01:002010-09-23T20:39:05.370+01:00Fireball
As far as I am aware and I sit to be corr...Fireball<br />As far as I am aware and I sit to be corrected on this in contract law there has to be a proven commercial contract for any enforcement action to be based on.<br /><br />Having read back to your original post it is definitely company to company dealing so is covered by contract law not statute law assuming you believe HMRC and the UK GVT are operating as companies.<br /><br />I realise 'they' don't want you to figure this out but please do your own digging and see if you come to my conclusion.<br /><br />If you can prove to yourself that VAT is covered by contract law then there simply has to be an enforceable contract in place that is signed by both parties with full disclosure which means reading a copy of the prevailing terms and conditions when the contract was signed.<br />These T&C's have to be on the same document as the signatures.<br /><br />When your turnover hit the VAT threshold did the VAT man send you a contract for you to sign or did one turn up with it in their briefcase for you to sign?<br /><br />VAT waters are very muddy indeed as the extinguishing of the Rover VAT bill proves.Billnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4471993488623327927.post-78844289876735979662010-09-23T20:33:15.002+01:002010-09-23T20:33:15.002+01:00Tax evasion is like masturbation.
We all do it t...Tax evasion is like masturbation. <br /><br />We all do it to a greater or lesser extent. We just don't talk about it. <br /><br /><br /><br />Well you do, obviously, but anyway.Kingbingohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08943872286295476316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4471993488623327927.post-82577965230764765932010-09-23T17:45:47.104+01:002010-09-23T17:45:47.104+01:00Cash no VAT guv'na?
Sorry for being a party t...Cash no VAT guv'na?<br /><br />Sorry for being a party to theft for the last three and a half years.<br /><br />Fear not however, hopefully soon I shall not be dipping into your back pocket by way of the state HMRC & DWP for a great deal longer.<br /><br />1 down, a few million to go eh?Jayce Kayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11546864700028185848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4471993488623327927.post-26505484847691329972010-09-23T17:19:01.721+01:002010-09-23T17:19:01.721+01:00spartacus"Ask them for proof of the contract,...spartacus"Ask them for proof of the contract, along with its full terms and conditions that, they must have with you to indulge in what is a business activity?"<br /><br />I know the good Capt. is going down that route too, the thing is, if you've previously coughed up to them (and filled in tax returns) doesn't that effectively mean you've contracted with them, thereby voiding your argument?FireballXL5https://www.blogger.com/profile/08368570990510709678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4471993488623327927.post-32448001265094970722010-09-23T15:27:27.477+01:002010-09-23T15:27:27.477+01:00So I'm all for starving the bastards any way I...So I'm all for starving the bastards any way I can and given that they're chasing me for £8k "unpaid" from three years ago, what cunning plan do you suggest we employ to keep these cunts at bay??? <br /><br />Ask them for proof of the contract, along with its full terms and conditions that, they must have with you to indulge in what is a business activity?<br /><br />Just a thought. <br />I've asked a few government departments and a few banks for proof of contract and have yet to get said proof delivered to my door.Billnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4471993488623327927.post-70310726483304982452010-09-23T15:18:19.724+01:002010-09-23T15:18:19.724+01:00About fucking time.
I have been banging this drum...About fucking time.<br /><br />I have been banging this drum for months.<br /><br />All aboard! All aboard the good ship "Fuck You HMRC".<br /><br />Starve them and they will soon clean up their act and start to spend OUR money more wisely.<br /><br />CR.Captain Rantyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07839241144954596066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4471993488623327927.post-74966495037197656332010-09-23T14:56:06.533+01:002010-09-23T14:56:06.533+01:00HMRC is the most proven of Government incompetent ...HMRC is the most proven of Government incompetent thievery. As yet I see bugger all change since May.Oldrightiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03192587284458430556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4471993488623327927.post-60348468234339582772010-09-23T14:46:36.683+01:002010-09-23T14:46:36.683+01:00"Tax evasion, tax avoidance -- these are not ..."<i>Tax evasion, tax avoidance -- these are not immoral or criminal acts.</i>"<br /><br />La fucking la. Of course tax <i>evasion</i> is a criminal act, as you admit a couple of paras earlier.<br /><br />Whether it is immoral is another matter, but it sure as hell is illegal (whether you wish otherwise or not).<br /><br />I take it that your oh so busy life isn't in the legal profession? Cockwaft.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4471993488623327927.post-82830527852933368512010-09-23T14:16:39.434+01:002010-09-23T14:16:39.434+01:00@Mark Wadsworth. Being honest isn't good enoug...@Mark Wadsworth. Being honest isn't good enough. Keeping your head down and being honest does not relieve you of your responsibility to thwart evil being visited upon you family, friends and neighbours. <br /><br />We are the subjects of an evil state and "honest" people are keeping it alive.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4471993488623327927.post-32673610814149470972010-09-23T14:10:34.214+01:002010-09-23T14:10:34.214+01:00Yes and no. The point is that for a given level of...Yes and no. The point is that for a given level of govt. spending, the more people evade or avoid, the bigger the burden on 'the honest'.Mark Wadsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07733511175178098449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4471993488623327927.post-77011261919005528102010-09-23T14:06:53.122+01:002010-09-23T14:06:53.122+01:00I'd love to vote for you Obo. Your maiden spe...I'd love to vote for you Obo. Your maiden speech would be a world class event! Please keep it up.Matthew Illsleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4471993488623327927.post-73697627049039393782010-09-23T14:05:42.401+01:002010-09-23T14:05:42.401+01:00Starve the monster. I like it! :DStarve the monster. I like it! :DJuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4471993488623327927.post-38166765393417514942010-09-23T13:31:51.271+01:002010-09-23T13:31:51.271+01:00The final straw for me was when they waived a huge...The final straw for me was when they waived a huge VAT bill for Rover in it's dying days "to protect jobs" (votes) whilst at the same time some hard faced bint from Customs & Excise stood in my office demanding immediate payment for a small slightly late VAT return which would equally have jeopardised jobs in my business. <br /><br />So I'm all for starving the bastards any way I can and given that they're chasing me for £8k "unpaid" from three years ago, what cunning plan do you suggest we employ to keep these cunts at bay???FireballXL5https://www.blogger.com/profile/08368570990510709678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4471993488623327927.post-51892491784260034452010-09-23T13:19:23.206+01:002010-09-23T13:19:23.206+01:00We'll be round to see you tomorrow.
HMRCWe'll be round to see you tomorrow.<br /><br />HMRCAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4471993488623327927.post-70037057761455369032010-09-23T13:17:38.390+01:002010-09-23T13:17:38.390+01:00Well thank fuck for that. I was prevaricating on w...Well thank fuck for that. I was prevaricating on what to do with next quarters VAT return...FamblyGuynoreply@blogger.com