Saturday, 5 June 2010

Something for @marksany

@marksany: @obotheclown and @John_Demetriou bickering about who has the best utopia in his head. Tiresome! The world is a disaster- talk about that.

This is a bit of a simplification, I'm afraid. John Demetriou believes that the current situation only needs a complete relaxation on social liberty to be utopia. or perhaps not complete relaxation, but the set of liberties that exercise him personally. Apart from that, he thinks we're in a pretty good place.

Now, you say the world is a disaster, and that I should talk about that. But I am talking about that.

The fact of the matter is that socialism has been tested to destruction and failed in every iteration. So let's write that off.

The current situation is a disaster brought on by social democracy, which, while it hasn't quite been tested to destruction, is clearly not up to the job. We are currently "led" by a bunch of cack-handed, bumbling fuckwits who couldn't rescue a school fete, let alone a global economy. There is also no evidence that social democracy will lead to anything but more boom and bust and greater and greater debts shoved onto as yet unborn future generations. This is going to collapse at some point.

We have also tried classical liberalism, which inevitably led to social democracy and completely undue power of the state. Even that hotbed of classical liberalism, the USA, is heading towards the European model which inevitably will lead to the same strains and disasters that Europe faces.

Monarchy and feudalism were tried and failed, as have theocracies.

So, all the ideologies which contain any aspect of a state and have been practiced anywhere in the world have led to collapse or are leading to collapse.

It's not utopian to be an anarchist. Being an anarchist is difficult and challenging. But at least you are your own master, and not the milch cow of incompetent, spendthrift bureaucrats.


John Demetriou said...

I want to drink your semen and scream in orgasm as you touch my penis head.

Gordon said...

I most certainly don't as I'm not a raging poof. However, I do believe he displays some very clear and pertinant views, albeit with some refreshing phrases that should be heard in more 'polite company'.

Mark Wadsworth said...

Yeah, let's try Geo-Libertarianism. What's the worse that can happen? Apart from it might actually work, like in all the places it's been tried.

sixtypoundsaweekcleaner said...

Look! This is too exciting. I can't cope with all this excitement. It would be good manners, Mr Clown, to invite Mr JD and then let us know he is coming. Otherwise, we might be in danger of thinking he is someone else. Someone important perhaps, like an MP. Or perhaps someone from down my local pub who likes to sound off on a regular basis, because he feels disfranchised or something. I mean, we have to make sure we take these people into account, just in case they go barmy or something and blow our heads off.

Just saying.

Jock Coats said...

One of the quotes I have in the header of my blog seems apt:

"Anarchism is not a romantic fable but the hardheaded realization, based on five thousand years of experience, that we cannot entrust the management of our lives to kings, priests, politicians, generals, and county commissioners."

• Edward Abbey (1927-1989)
Voice Crying in the Wilderness (Vox Clamantis en Deserto) : Notes from a Secret Journal (1990) ISBN 0312064888

J Demetriou said...

to set the record straight, I didn't write that stupid first comment - that is the work od a sockpuppet troll.

sixtypoundsaweekcleaner said...

He does seem a bit gay.